Timer rollback to starting state when no-one is in the plex.

Wulf is right in the sense that TZ is a problem, but that can't be fixed!

My point is that you dont actually have to fight to win FW. just plex with the other side is asleep in systems that they are not in. Done. Game over. Sounds good.

Hell, its evidence that PvP & Plexing don't currently mix at all. Separate activities.

I think we did 49.4% of all amarr VP yesterday. and many systems are now over 50% contested that were orignially stable. We have flipped 2 systems already and plan to flip a large number by the end of the week.

The game logs and fraps will show that amarr is able to push back and actually gain warzone control if we stop having fun and turn into drones that plex all day

And since it works for you that must mean its awesome. Congrats. Atron ftw.

Starting to really love this argument; More fights equals all fixed. lol

Best example is the Amarr Militia and Fweddit. Fweddit has a massive amount of kills and PVPs all the time. Yet the minmatar are (were) winning the warzone due to broken farming mechanics.

And +1 to Amarrian VENGEANCE who actually have the balls to live in FW space. .

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Even further, do you know how difficult it can be for a larger group like Fweddit to get a fun-sized skirmish? Fweddit can regularly roll with 40+ pilots, but will [understandably] rarely find a tango partner. In my experience, the decently sized skirmishes actually come mostly from neuts, local pirates, or the occasional visiting 0.0 entities. This isn't meant to be a bash at other Minmatar FW organizations, but I think speaks to the larger point raised in this (and many other threads) that larger, more militaristic muscle does not necessarily equate to Factional Warfare success. And, in my opinion, such muscle should actually equate to Factional Warfare success.

Instead, Factional Warfare success seems to involve coordinating a mass-scale effort orbiting beacons for 15+ minutes and upgrading systems every once in a while. If you're doing it right, you are actually trying to minimize conflict so you can complete more plexes. This sort of success is noteworthy considering the scale, but does not necessarily speak to "Warfare" part of Factional Warfare. Thus, in its current form, Faction Warfare seems to be a bit of a misnomer.

Edit: Source for statement in first paragraph: https://api.eveonline.com/eve/FacWarTopStats.xml.aspx

Perhap Caldari/Ammar failcascade at stages in the farming cycle, but Gallente didn't, none of our people "moved out of the warzone" despite caldaris resurgence this year.

i have the better idea: insta-biomass any farmers in plex when you warp to beacon

PvPers these days.....

So the fact that income and right to dock, both immensely important for non-Titan pew, is directly tied to risk-free alt farming activity is just something that can be ignored or worked around through :effort:?
Pray tell, How?

But this rvb style pvp with no back story and no overarching goals can get stale. With no connection to sov its just too random. And even now you can hit dry spells where you spend an hour warping around with little action.

The overarching goal in faction war is to win sov for your militia.

That is the goal but I was responding to Maximus who was saying "who cares" about it. In essence he was saying pretend it doesn't exist and just enjoy the random pvp we are getting.

Its a pretty easy to choice to make when the overarching goal of gaining sov is a broken carebear race.

"the dev says they had a notification system ready but yanked it cos its not in the essence of the sandbox.."
Did you look at the link Alucard provided? Did the dev say this? If so where?